Electronic Recording of Meetings and Conversations

1. Recording by Service-users Acting in a Personal Capacity

This part of the chapter deals with recording of meetings/conversations by individual service-users, in their capacity as private individuals.

1.1 Introduction

Advances in technology (such as smartphones) have made the recording of meetings and other conversations with professionals much more easily available to individual service-users. This may be simply because they wish to have a verbatim record of the conversation/meeting to refer back to, or because they have difficulties in following or recalling conversations. They may, however, seek to use the recording for other purposes such as admission into evidence in family court proceedings, or even for wider broadcast.

This may arise in the context of private law or public law proceedings, and may involve recording of conversations between parents, between parents and social workers, foster carers, etc, or recording of conversations between parents and children. One parent may be trying to use it, for example, to justify their assertions regarding contact with the other parent.

If the scale or style of recording is excessive, oppressive or disproportionate, then this may cross a threshold. For example, a parent recording their questioning of the child in a manner which is oppressive may in fact be evidence of possible emotional abuse of the child by that parent. Persistent recording of a social worker in such a way as to amount to intimidation may constitute harassment, and it may be possible for the social worker to seek legal redress such as a non-molestation order.

Recording may take place overtly or covertly.

1.2 Overt Recording

A clear process should be in place for dealing with requests to record meetings/conversations. It is preferable for this to be addressed with all service-users at an early stage, rather than waiting until the situation arises at the start of a meeting/conversation. The process should set out how the request should be made, who will consider the request and how far in advance of the meeting/conversation the request should be made. It should also make clear to the service-user the limitations upon the use of the recorded material, e.g. that it can only be used in relation to the ongoing family proceedings and cannot be broadcast more widely. The service-user will preferably be invited to sign to indicate their agreement to and understanding of these limitations.

It is important that each such request is considered on its own merits. If the decision-maker is minded to refuse the request, then legal advice should be sought.

Cafcass state the following in their Frequently Asked Questions: Can I record my interview with Cafcass?

'There should be no need to record an interview with Cafcass but if you tell the Family Court Adviser (FCA) that is what you intend to do then this will be referred to in the report and they may ask you to provide a copy of the recording if you intend to send it to the court. A copy would also have to be provided to the other party. Interviews will contain information confidential to the court, and the FCA may ask the court to make an order about how any recording can be kept confidential if they are worried about it being disclosed – for example, if the recording is posted on social media or shared with people who are not entitled to have access to it'.

1.3 Covert Recording

This is not a clear-cut area, and legal advice must be sought as appropriate.

Article 2(2) of the UK GDPR does not cover processing of personal data by an individual in the course of a 'purely personal or household activity'. The scope of this in the context of recording is not clear. However, Jackson J in M v F (Covert Recording of Children) [2016] EWFC 29 expressed the view that a similar exemption contained in the previous Data Protection Act was intended to protect normal domestic use, and would not cover the covert recording of individuals, and particularly children, for the purpose of evidence-gathering in family proceedings. HHJ Clarke at First Instance in Fairhurst -v- Woodward (2021) held that a party who sought to 'actively mislead' another party about what audio recordings were being captured, meaning that '…personal data may be captured from people who are not even aware that the device is there…', had breached data protection principles. The Court noted that the Information Commissioner has provided Guidance: Lawfulness, fairness and transparency on the meaning of 'transparency' in which she says that 'Transparent processing is about being clear, open and honest with people from the start about who you are, and how and why you use their personal data'.

Practitioners should be mindful that covert recording may be taking place, and should endeavour to ensure that they do not make statements during 'private' conversations which they would not be prepared to hear produced as evidence in court.

1.4 Use of Recorded Material

Aside from the legitimacy of the recording itself, there may be restrictions on its use.

If a party seeks to admit such material into court proceedings, then it is at the discretion of the court whether to allow this or not. Such evidence will only be admitted if it is relevant to the issues in the case and not, for example, in furtherance of a personal grievance by a parent against a social worker.

Wider distribution, for example, making such recordings available via the internet, is likely to be in contravention of the UK General Data Protection Regulation and the Data Protection Act 2018. Such recordings are likely to contain information (including possible 'sensitive personal information') relating to third parties, and the distribution of such information so as to enable those third parties to be identified would be in breach of data protection provisions. If the issues in question are the subject of ongoing court proceedings, then there is also a possible contempt of court.

3. Child Protection Conferences

It is the policy of Wandsworth Council to video record all Child Protection Conferences using Microsoft Teams.

The meeting is recorded to ensure accuracy of the minutes of the Child Protection Conference.

Child Protection Coordinators will ensure at the start of the meeting that they explain and seek consent from all participants before the recording commences.